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#21
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#22
So the next time an irrational Blue Jays fan wants a struggling pitcher traded for a bag of balls, there's some hope.
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#23
Well the Jays once traded a player for himself so anything is possible. Wink

In 2005 The Jays traded John McDonald to Detroit at the deadline for a player to be named later. In November the Jays decided they wanted McDonald back so the Tigers sent him and cash back to Toronto to complete the original trade.

So the Jays traded John McDonald for a PTBNL and the PTBNL wound up being John McDonald.
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(2017-01-05, 12:59 PM)Andrew Wrote: Well the Jays once traded a player for himself so anything is possible. Wink

In 2005 The Jays traded John McDonald to Detroit at the deadline for a player to be named later. In November the Jays decided they wanted McDonald back so the Tigers sent him and cash back to Toronto to complete the original trade.

So the Jays traded John McDonald for a PTBNL and the PTBNL wound up being John McDonald.
How the hell did the jays manage to get cash back too lol
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#25
Did you know that AJ Burnett ranks 30th all time in strikeouts?

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?po...&sort=24,d
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(2017-02-20, 11:44 PM)Andrew Wrote: Did you know that AJ Burnett ranks 30th all time in strikeouts?

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?po...&sort=24,d


That surprises me, not because Burnett was good at strikeouts...but because of when he did it.   Pitchers are maxing out at 230ish IP, 35ish starts...when they used to play more games, stay in games longer (more complete games)...you never see guys get over 300 Ks anymore.

Then looking at his career...he doesn't seem to be a standoubt in that area...only topped 200k a few times...only led the league in k's once...and for the first half of his career at least, seemed to miss time on the DL every year.   Didn't seem to have the consistency to bump him up the leader boards.
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Yeah I never would've guessed that. But he did have a pretty consistent and healthy career. In 15 seasons between 2001-15 he pitched in fewer than 20 games only once.

If anything, this is proof of how difficult it is for pitchers to stay healthy and, well, good at throwing baseballs.

Was also surprised to see CC Sabathia 22nd all-time in K's. And Felix cracked the top 50 last season at age 30.
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#28
I was actually more surprised to see Chuck Finley 29th, than AJ 30th. Never thought of him as a high strikeout guy, but looking at his numbers, it was obviously because I wasn't paying attention lol. 3 200 K seasons, 9 170+ K seasons.
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(2017-02-21, 11:21 AM)shadylane Wrote: Yeah I never would've guessed that. But he did have a pretty consistent and healthy career. In 15 seasons between 2001-15 he pitched in fewer than 20 games only once.


A full healthy season, is roughly 30 starts...missing 10 is like 2 months worth.

Indeed, it looks like he stayed healthy from 2008 on...but for the first half of his career, he seemed to spend at least part of the year on the DL, and he missed almost all of 2003.
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(2017-02-21, 11:59 AM)Chris D Wrote:
(2017-02-21, 11:21 AM)shadylane Wrote: Yeah I never would've guessed that. But he did have a pretty consistent and healthy career. In 15 seasons between 2001-15 he pitched in fewer than 20 games only once.


A full healthy season, is roughly 30 starts...missing 10 is like 2 months worth.

Indeed, it looks like he stayed healthy from 2008 on...but for the first half of his career, he seemed to spend at least part of the year on the DL, and he missed almost all of 2003.

He didn't miss any full seasons though for 14 of 15 years, With TJ and Labrum surgeries being so common these days, that's something a lot of guys don't accomplish. Sometimes they miss the majority of 2 consecutive seasons due to one injury depending on what time of year it occurs and how quick they come back from it.


For a guy that seemingly was always hurt, he did quite well in the end.
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#31
It also has a lot to do with the fact that strikeouts have become much more common over the past 40-ish years due to the changes in thinking and strategy. For the first 100 years of MLB striking out was a sin. Sabermetrics made it much less so and thus they are much more common.

The league wide K% in 1940 was 9.4%. In 1960 it was 13.5%. In 1980 it was 12.5%. It has been in the high teens/low twenty percent range for most of the 2000's. Walter Johnson, considered the most dominant pitcher of his era, had a career* K% of 12.5%. Ian Kennedy, considered a below average at best starter in this era, has a career k% of 21.9%.

So Any list of strikeouts is probably going to be dominated by guys who pitched in the past 20 or so years because its a much higher strikeout environment.


* we only have K% for the last half of his career
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