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What's wrong with Ovie?
#21
Real winners win Cups.
Warning:  Brain May not be Engaged.
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#22
Thats ridiculous. There's 30 teams in the league. Winning a cup is a team accomplishment and a lot has to go the right way to win it. If Ovechkin was drafted by pitt and malkin by washington, would that instantly mean ovechkin is a winner and malkin is a loser?
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(2017-01-12, 08:06 AM)RyeRocks Wrote: Thats ridiculous.  There's 30 teams in the league.  Winning a cup is a team accomplishment and a lot has to go the right way to win it.  If Ovechkin was drafted by pitt and malkin by washington, would that instantly mean ovechkin is a winner and malkin is a loser?

If that were the case, perhaps Washington has a cup and Pitt doesn't... Malkin does have a Conn Smythe award.
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#24
There's some validity to the How many Cups does Ovie have argument. He has never led his team to anything. In the NHL or Olympics, when the pressure is greatest. Sid & Malkin have proven to be big game players, Ovie has not. Great regular season player though
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I think last year, there is merit to Ovechkin not leading the Caps to the Cup...they were the top seed (by a large margin) and should have made it out of the second round but they failed...then OV started whining about the seeding of the playoffs.

Previous years though, Ovechkin didn't have the team around him that Sid and Malkin have had in Pittsburgh. Then, with the Olympics, Sid had an all-star team around him (probably one of the best hockey teams ever assembled)

I find it hard to put team losses, like not winning the Cup, on one player, when there are so many factors that make it a team loss. Good teams, even with great players, have difficulty winning the Cup.
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#26
Ovechkin 82 points in 84 games
Malkin 129 points in 124 games

Pretty even. You guys don't think Ovechkin would have a better chance at winning the cup or a gold medal if he played on Crosby's team? Malkin btw also has not gotten Russia a gold medal. Huh.

According to this logic, the 4th liner on the penguins is more valuable because he has a cup and ovechkin does not.
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546 goals - Geez - that is a lot of goals.

29th all time in goals and currently 6th all time in goals/games.

Given the generation he's played in, one of the most elite goal scorers in the history of the game.
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I can't even imagine if Crosby and Ovechkin played together. Chances are, given their positions, they would have actually played on the same line a whole bunch.

A generational left handed center with a generational, right handed scorer?

Oh my.

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#29
I'd take Malkin over Ovie IF he could stay healthy. Ovie is at least always healthy.

It's not just the no Stanley Cups, but the Caps are always out in the 1st or 2nd round. Ovie's the leader, a lot of that falls on him
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(2017-01-11, 10:50 PM)cflisthebest Wrote: Real winners win Cups.


or, as in the case of Ray Bourque, they move somewhere they can win a Cup.

"Crosby, passes to McDavid, he scooores!  PENS WIN THE CUP"  Silly
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#31
Malkin's been a really consistent producer. Wow, I didn't realize how much action he'd missed til I saw the career numbers. He's our generation's Tim Kerr!
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