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Guys who deserved a Cup but did not get one.
#21
Giordano
Monohan
Gaudreau

Edit: Sorry, was just answering the "did not get a cup" part.
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#22
Ryan Smyth, Jarome Iginla, Borje Salming, Peter Stastny, Andrei Markov, Trevor Linden.
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#23
Maybe the elder statesmen of the forum can clear this up for me. I'm too young to have seen Dionne play, but I've been told that he was a very selfish player would also whine to get assists. Is that accurate or overblown?
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(2019-01-08, 01:06 AM)Whattagame Wrote: Maybe the elder statesmen of the forum can clear this up for me.  I'm too young to have seen Dionne play, but I've been told that he was a very selfish player would also whine to get assists.  Is that accurate or overblown?

First I have ever heard of it. By all indications he was a very well liked player and teammate. In any interview I ever saw he always appeared happy with a great sense of humour.
If by selfish you mean he liked to carry the puck and shoot...the man had 731 goals and over 1000 assists, so I would say that his judgement on when to shoot vs when to pass was pretty damned sound. 
He was a regular for Team canada in the 70''s and early 80s.
"In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane."     Oscar Wilde
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(2019-01-08, 01:06 AM)Whattagame Wrote: Maybe the elder statesmen of the forum can clear this up for me.  I'm too young to have seen Dionne play, but I've been told that he was a very selfish player would also whine to get assists.  Is that accurate or overblown?

Never heard this before.
I've been obnoxious....I've been unconscious....I've been all kinds of things that are hard to spell.

Stephen Bruton
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#26
You might be thinking of the once great Gilbert Dion
"when the lights come on this whole place gets ugly"
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#27
I always felt bad for Pat LaFontaine. One of the greatest Islanders of all-time, breaking in just after the dynasty ended. Always seemed like a classy gent.
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(2019-01-08, 02:29 AM)Lagavulin Wrote:
(2019-01-08, 01:06 AM)Whattagame Wrote: Maybe the elder statesmen of the forum can clear this up for me.  I'm too young to have seen Dionne play, but I've been told that he was a very selfish player would also whine to get assists.  Is that accurate or overblown?

First I have ever heard of it. By all indications he was a very well liked player and teammate. In any interview I ever saw he always appeared happy with a great sense of humour.
If by selfish you mean he liked to carry the puck and shoot...the man had 731 goals and over 1000 assists, so I would say that his judgement on when to shoot vs when to pass was pretty damned sound. 
He was a regular for Team canada in the 70''s and early 80s.

The stories I was told weren't about being a shoot first player or not passing.  It was more that he was concerned about padding his stats over winning games - not that the two are mutually exclusive.  One story was about the year he tied Gretzky for the points lead, and he was constantly lobbying scorekeepers to add assists, or ensure he got credit for goals.  He ultimately won the Art Ross due to having more goals despite being tied in points.  

Again, not sure if it's true, but since I didn't see him play, I wanted to ask.
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Mats Sundin....there I said it
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#30
Ryan Smyth might be the only person in NHL history to request a trade TO the Oilers. For that reason alone, he did not deserve to win a Cup.   Wink
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(2019-01-08, 01:06 AM)Whattagame Wrote: Maybe the elder statesmen of the forum can clear this up for me.  I'm too young to have seen Dionne play, but I've been told that he was a very selfish player would also whine to get assists.  Is that accurate or overblown?

 Absolute and total nonsense. The man had more than one 70+ assists season. OVERBLOWN, probably from someone who was an Oiler fan in 1982 when they blew a 5-0 lead into the third and lost 6-5 in overtime.. Game 7. I was in Edmonton at the time. Fun season. The whole city was in shock.

 I seen Huddy and Calligan on the bikes ten or so days after that (Fitness center S. Side of Edmonton.. at the last hotel heading out of town), and didn't even know what to say to them.. so just said, 'Come on you guys, PUSH it. Sather sent me to keep an eye on ya'

  Kings were an under rated team. Game one of that series ended at 10-9 L.A.K. might have been 11-10. 37 years ago, eh? I was oh so young .. 37! So young.

It was Garry Unger's last season in the NHL. Laurie Boschman was the next 3 line C, then MacTee
Phill 2:10-11 
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(2019-01-08, 10:41 AM)Whattagame Wrote:
(2019-01-08, 02:29 AM)Lagavulin Wrote:
(2019-01-08, 01:06 AM)Whattagame Wrote: Maybe the elder statesmen of the forum can clear this up for me.  I'm too young to have seen Dionne play, but I've been told that he was a very selfish player would also whine to get assists.  Is that accurate or overblown?

First I have ever heard of it. By all indications he was a very well liked player and teammate. In any interview I ever saw he always appeared happy with a great sense of humour.
If by selfish you mean he liked to carry the puck and shoot...the man had 731 goals and over 1000 assists, so I would say that his judgement on when to shoot vs when to pass was pretty damned sound. 
He was a regular for Team canada in the 70''s and early 80s.

The stories I was told weren't about being a shoot first player or not passing.  It was more that he was concerned about padding his stats over winning games - not that the two are mutually exclusive.  One story was about the year he tied Gretzky for the points lead, and he was constantly lobbying scorekeepers to add assists, or ensure he got credit for goals.  He ultimately won the Art Ross due to having more goals despite being tied in points.  

Again, not sure if it's true, but since I didn't see him play, I wanted to ask.


The Kings were too dependent on that first line but that was a GM not finding enough depth. Dionne would have happily shed some points for a cup run with the Kings
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#33
McDavid, if he's unfortunate enough to play his whole career in Edmonton.
A leader without followers is just a person taking a walk...
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#34
Walt Poddubny
O' for a good life, we just might have to weaken
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#35
You know who deserves a cup? Matt Hendricks. Specifically on this play:



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(2018-12-31, 08:36 PM)Limestoner Wrote: Marcel Dionne leaps to mind.

Marcel played, what, 16 seasons or something like that, and never even got close to a Cup Final...

...while his younger brother Gilbert won a Cup with Montreal in 1993.
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#37
I sorta agree with the notion that no one player 'deserves' a Cup, but....just thinking about the many great players we've seen that either never even got to play in the Final or came achingly close only to never again get another shot...there's a lot of guys that we would've loved to see win one before their careers ended.

As a Leafs fan...obviously, Mats. Twice got as far as the conference finals( in 2002 fell just 2 wins shy of making it to the Cup Final ), but that was it. Sad

Jarome Iginla....got within 1 win of getting his name on the Cup in 2004. Never got even that close again after that.

Ryan Smyth....so popular and loved when he played in Edmonton....& was traded from L.A. back to the Oilers prior to the season in which the Kings won their 1st Cup.

Mike Gartner....prolific goal scorer for 19 seasons( 14 consecutive seasons of 30+ goals )but never played in the Final. In fact...he was traded from the Rangers to Toronto for Glenn Anderson 2 months before the Rangers ended their 54-year drought in 1994.

And while we're on the subject of mostly former players....we might soon have to include one Henrik Lundqvist on this list someday. King Henrik's best chance at winning that elusive Cup might've already come and gone in Rangerstown.....
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#38
Shane Doan
Patrick Marleau

To name a couple.
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(2019-01-16, 03:35 PM)LordFerg13 Wrote: Shane Doan
Patrick Marleau

To name a couple.

Gilbert Perrault was phenomenal back in the day... 

Canucks bad luck in the draft lottery started on day 1... 

I'd also throw in Henrik and Daniel...


I've never been there before, but once I went there twice...
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#40
 Who deserves a cup?? The whole Canucks team back in 2011.. Ok I will water that down a little:

Hank and Daniel Sedin

 They gave it everything they had, and a bit more

The Canucks were robbed by two things in 2011: Corruption, and injuries

If we were all healthy, and no trumped up suspensions AND decent refereeing, we take that series
Phill 2:10-11 
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