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January transfer thread
#41
(2017-01-18, 01:52 PM)Busby Wrote: Memphis Depay to Lyon, 16M rising to 22M with add ons.  Buy back and sell on clause. 

Good business this window by us.  Nearly half of the Pogba fee recouped.  Or nearly half of the Griezmann.

You just know he's going to go on and shred it out there.
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#42
(2017-01-18, 01:52 PM)Busby Wrote: Memphis Depay to Lyon, 16M rising to 22M with add ons.  Buy back and sell on clause. 

Good business this window by us.  Nearly half of the Pogba fee recouped.  Or nearly half of the Griezmann.

I wouldn't be baking on getting the extra 6mill any time soon. He'll be back in Holland in two years, or maybe homeless.
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#43
(2017-01-18, 04:59 PM)miltonred Wrote:
(2017-01-18, 01:52 PM)Busby Wrote: Memphis Depay to Lyon, 16M rising to 22M with add ons.  Buy back and sell on clause. 

Good business this window by us.  Nearly half of the Pogba fee recouped.  Or nearly half of the Griezmann.

I wouldn't be baking on getting the extra 6mill any time soon. He'll be back in Holland in two years, or maybe homeless.
Yeah, not a believer myself.
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#44
He's a decent prospect. He's 22 which is getting on for a kid. He never made the jump properly. He was definitely better under LVG, than Jose. I don't think Jose has much time for these younger players who need the game time. I can see Martial struggling a bit in the next half of the season. Luke Shaw is another one who appears to have difficulty under Jose.

United have a glut of wide midfield players at the moment.

The point of the buy back is the opportunity to get first to the queue. Look at Morata last year with Juve. A talent that was worth being back in Madrid, for Madrid. It's a clause that a club like United should have had all along with these young players. Kean at Burnley is another that should have had this IMO.
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#45
(2017-01-20, 11:24 AM)Busby Wrote: He's a decent prospect. He's 22 which is getting on for a kid.  He never made the jump properly.  He was definitely better under LVG, than Jose. I don't think Jose has much time for these younger players who need the game time.  I can see Martial struggling a bit in the next half of the season.  Luke Shaw is another one who appears to have difficulty under Jose.  

United have a glut of wide midfield players at the moment.  

The point of the buy back is the opportunity to get first to the queue.  Look at Morata last year with Juve.  A talent that was worth being back in Madrid, for Madrid.  It's a clause that a club like United should have had all along with these young players.  Kean at Burnley is another that should have had this IMO.
A good deal for both club and player.  We're all hoping for more, but at this stage in his career, Memphis appears to be more Babel than Overmars.

A former poster, nucgunner, used to lament the premature selling on of young Dutch talent to the big clubs.  He suggested that Dutch kids should play everyday  in holland until solidly into their twenties.  He had a point.  Recently, Babel and Drenthe never fully realized their potential, and I am truly happy that Memphis and club were 'united' in their approach moving forward.
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#46
One thing known in the circles at OT was Memphis wasn't a lazy trainer. He took his football very seriously. I think this was a combination of the purchase of Mkhitaryan, and Zlatan fully shuffling the line up to the point where the wings were the only spots. The rise of Rashford and Martial, plus Lingard, Mata. That's five players for two spots. Then when you think about a 3 man mid that Jose is favouring these days. Rooney getting into the squad, and of course Pogba and Herrera and Carrick and Fellaini. There's just no room. Even with Morgan and Memphis gone, there's still some tough questions.
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#47
(2017-01-22, 06:11 PM)Busby Wrote: One thing known in the circles at OT was Memphis wasn't a lazy trainer.  He took his football very seriously.  I think this was a combination of the purchase of Mkhitaryan, and Zlatan fully shuffling the line up to the point where the wings were the only spots.  The rise of Rashford and Martial, plus Lingard, Mata.  That's five players for two spots. Then when you think about a 3 man mid that Jose is favouring these days.  Rooney getting into the squad, and of course Pogba and Herrera and Carrick and Fellaini.  There's just no room.  Even with Morgan and Memphis gone, there's still some tough questions.
It's great to hear, and I think the player appreciates the buy back clause. It signals no bridges burned.

 Jose wins games, and Jose doesn't do young players.  I saw a stat once that every "young" player in your starting 11 loses your team a couple of games over the course of a season....something like that.
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#48
Maybe. I've never seen this stat.

I remember these years with SAF, where the team was creating piles of chances, but not winning games or just about tying them. The subsequent years were the dynasties that the team is remembered for. 1998-2001. 2005-2008.

What I will say is that Jose is a different guy at United. The calm approach seems to be really helping the team. I think in years gone by he would turn the teams he managed into a bit of a sideshow. It was sure entertaining, but a toxic environment for all involved. The situation at Chelsea was the pinnacle for me. Success borne from drama, is temporary.

You can see from how he's carrying himself in the media and on the sidelines that he's looking to be here for the long haul. He wants to impress those that matter and I think he's done that so far. Its to be judged in two or three seasons from now though.
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(2017-01-24, 06:09 PM)Busby Wrote: Maybe. I've never seen this stat.  

I remember these years with SAF, where the team was creating piles of chances, but not winning games or just about tying them.  The subsequent years were the dynasties that the team is remembered for.  1998-2001.  2005-2008.  

What I will say is that Jose is a different guy at United.  The calm approach seems to be really helping the team.  I think in years gone by he would turn the teams he managed into a bit of a sideshow.  It was sure entertaining, but a toxic environment for all involved.  The situation at Chelsea was the pinnacle for me.  Success borne from drama, is temporary.  

You can see from how he's carrying himself in the media and on the sidelines that he's looking to be here for the long haul.  He wants to impress those that matter and I think he's done that so far.  Its to be judged in two or three seasons from now though.
The aberration that was Chelsea last season; transitioning off Terry, Costa hangover, Hazard buckling under the weight of expectation. Stenosis in the spine of the team.
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#50
Payet to Marseilles. Done deal.
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(2017-01-29, 08:21 AM)Arsenal Wrote: Payet to Marseilles.  Done deal.

That sucks. I wish he'd have stayed in the EPL, his class at a club like West Ham is what makes things interesting. 

Ah well, goot luck back home Dimitri!
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#52
West Ham are garbage and he's 29 so he's not looking to get knocked down to the championship.

Ivanovic going to Zenit St. Petersburg in Russia. Should be done by the end of the day.
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#53
Also hearing Martial won't last through summer... boooo
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Nah, I wouldn't worry too much about that one. It's typical second season hangover. Plus he's said he's happy...and there isn't a chance the club sell him. They don't need the money AND he's only 21. Next season will be a big one for him though.
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