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Marty St. Louis To Have His Number 26 Retired Friday
#21
Very very nice career for Marty - he overcame some odds with respect to his stature and I'm sure had to work very hard to become the player that he did. I don't think his offensive numbers put him in the Hall of Fame.

Can we please start talking about Sundin now?
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#22
So is Marty his official American name now?

Marty St. Louis (like the blues Wink)
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#23
(2017-01-11, 11:00 PM)Pouzar Wrote: Very very nice career for Marty - he overcame some odds with respect to his stature and I'm sure had to work very hard to become the player that he did.  I don't think his offensive numbers put him in the Hall of Fame.
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NHL[edit]
Tied-21st in career goals (564, shared with Joe Nieuwendyk)
34th in career assists (785)
27th all-time in career points (1,349)
First European-born and trained player to be drafted first overall in the NHL Entry Draft (1989 by the Quebec Nordiques)
Only Swedish player to reach the 500 goal milestone (564)
Most career points and goals by a Swedish hockey player
Tied fastest overtime goal (6 seconds, shared with Alexander Ovechkin, Simon Gagné and David Legwand)
First Swedish player to reach 1,000 points
One of three players (Marcel Dionne, Jaromír Jágr) to record at least 20 goals in each of his first 17 NHL seasons

Toronto Maple Leafs[edit]
Goals (420)
Assists by a forward (567)
Points (987)
Assists in a period (3, tied with Darcy Tucker, Matt Stajan and Clarke MacArthur)

Awards and achievements[edit]
TV-pucken Champion as part of Team Stockholm 1986.
Swedish Champion in 1990.
First European born player to be drafted first overall in the NHL Entry Draft. (1989)
Named to the Elitserien World All-Star Team in 1991, 1992, 1994 and 1998.
Recipient of the Viking Award in 1993, 1994, 1997, and 2002.
Named to the World Championships All-Star Team in 1992 and 2003.
World Championships' Best Forward in 1992 and 2003.
Named to the Canada Cup All-Star Team in 1991.
Named to the World Cup of Hockey All-Star Team in 1996.
Played in the NHL All-Star Game in 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 (injured) and 2004.
Named to the NHL Second All-Star Team in 2002 and 2004.
Named to the Olympic Tournament All-Star Team in 2002.
Captain of the Swedish national ice hockey team in the 2006 Olympics in which Sweden won the gold medal.
Achieved 500 goal plateau on 14 October 2006.
Achieved 1,300 points on 7 February 2008, against the Montreal Canadiens.
Awarded the "Mark Messier Leadership Award" in 2008.
Enshrined in the Hockey Hall of Fame in the class of 2012 in his first year of eligibility.
Number (13) Retired by the Toronto Maple Leafs

Sundin played for Sweden in:
1989 European Junior Championships
1990 European Junior Championships
1990 World Junior Championships (silver medal)
1991 Canada Cup
1991 World Championships (gold medal)
1992 World Championships (gold medal)
1994 World Championships (bronze medal)
1996 World Cup of Hockey
1998 World Championships (gold medal)
1998 Winter Olympics
2001 World Championships
2002 Winter Olympics
2003 World Championships (silver medal)
2004 World Cup of Hockey
2006 Winter Olympics (gold medal)

1346 GAMES
1349 POINTS
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#24
Question shouldn't be if he makes the hall, question should be is it going to be first ballot

Great speech by Torts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEI5ixKltLY
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#25
Of course he belongs in the HOF.

Even if they raise the standards by removing players like Dick Duff, Bob Pulford and Clark Gillies, he certainly belongs.
Why is common sense not so common?
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#26
I hate how easy it is to get into the HOF acrossed most sports.
It should be left for the elite and the elite only.

#26 certainly doesn't belong by my standards.
Tears streaming down my cheeks, just take me to Lansdowne Street...
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(2017-01-20, 10:01 AM)Chip Wrote: I hate how easy it is to get into the HOF acrossed most sports.
It should be left for the elite and the elite only.

#26 certainly doesn't belong by my standards.

I totally agree. But as that post above post demonstrates, Sundin's in and he's never been at the top of his class. The majority of his success was with loaded teams. 

More than once, St. Louis was not only considered amongst the best, but the very best! He's a shoo-in.
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(2017-01-20, 10:01 AM)Chip Wrote: I hate how easy it is to get into the HOF acrossed most sports.
It should be left for the elite and the elite only.

#26 certainly doesn't belong by my standards.

Like MLB choices this will be debated to death over the coming years. I would like to see him in but like you I don't have any say. It will be the elite of the selection committee who will choose.
No Place to Run, No Place to Hide!!
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#29
Marty will be inducted on first ballot I think. 2018?
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