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Most underrated player
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Barkov, Backstrom lead large field of candidates

 
Aleksander Barkov is the most underrated player in the NHL, according to his peers.
The 23-year-old center, named captain of the Florida Panthers before the start of this season, was chosen by 10 of the 56 players who provided an answer. Washington Capitals center Nicklas Backstrom finished second with eight votes. Winnipeg Jets forward Blake Wheeler finished third, earning three votes.

Seven players earned two votes each and 21 more received one vote apiece. Five players abstained.
Barkov's size and skills have made life miserable for opposing defensemen since he joined the Panthers for the 2013-14 season. In 343 NHL games, Barkov has 259 points (102 goals, 157 assists), so they might be able to speak best about his talent level.

"I think he is a good player; you don't even realize what he does," said Anaheim Ducks defenseman Josh Manson, who also received a vote. "He's so strong on his skates, and his hands are disgusting. His shot is good. He's underrated for sure in my eyes."
But forwards can also appreciate what Barkov does in playing a 200-foot game. The 6-foot-3, 213-pound Finland-born player is already considered one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL.


"He's big, he's strong, has phenomenal hands and is deceptively fast," Vancouver Canucks center Bo Horvat said.


It's hard to imagine the No. 1 center on a Stanley Cup-winning team being underrated, but several players felt that way about Backstrom, who had 23 points (five goals, 18 assists) for the Capitals during the run to their first championship in the 2018 Stanley Cup Playoffs, capped by a five-game victory against the Vegas Golden Knights in the Final.


"The last couple years he's gotten more attention, but still not enough as he deserves," Calgary Flames forward Elias Lindholm said.
Backstrom, 30, has 17 points (three goals, 14 assists) in 14 games this season. He has 816 points (212 goals, 604 assists) in 829 NHL games.


"I still think he gets overlooked," Colorado Avalanche forward Gabriel Landeskog said. "He's so smart, and his passing is just unbelievable."
Another Capitals center received some support as well. Evgeny Kuznetsov, 26, has the backing of Tampa Bay Lightning forward Nikita Kucherov.

"He's a superstar," Kucherov said of Kuznetsov, who has 284 points (86 goals, 198 assists) in 354 NHL games. "He's unbelievable."
Ottawa Senators forward Mark Stone was tabbed by Chicago Blackhawks right wing Patrick Kane.
Stone, 26, has 19 points (six goals, 13 assists) in 16 games this season, including a five-point game on Tuesday against the New Jersey Devils. He has 268 points (101 goals, 167 assists) in 323 NHL games since joining the Senators during the 2012-13 season.
"I feel he's really good at takeaways and good offensively," Kane said. "He doesn't really get a lot of recognition.
Dallas Stars captain Jamie Benn stumped emphatically for his teammate, defenseman John Klingberg.
Klingberg, 26, was sixth in the voting for the Norris Trophy last season after finishing with an NHL career-high 67 points (eight goals, 59 assists) in 82 games.


He has 227 points (47 goals, 180 assists) in 319 NHL games.
"I don't know what else he needs to do," Benn said. "I get to see it every day, so it's obvious for me. You don't realize how much he does for our team. A lot of people just look at how many points he puts up. But he plays in every situation for us. He's good in his own zone and plays against the best players every night. What else do you want out of your best D-man?"
 
Most Underrated Player (61 votes)
Aleksander Barkov, Florida Panthers, 10; Nicklas Backstrom, Washington Capitals, 8; Blake Wheeler, Winnipeg Jets, 3; Roman Josi, Nashville Predators, 2; John Klingberg, Dallas Stars, 2; Evgeny Kuznetsov, Washington Capitals, 2; Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins, 2; Artemi Panarin, Columbus Blue Jackets. 2; Rickard Rakell, Anaheim Ducks, 2; Mikko Rantanen, Colorado Avalanche, 2; Pierre-Edouard Bellemare, Vegas Golden Knights, 1; Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins, 1; John Carlson, Washington Capitals, 1; Matt Grzelcyk, Boston Bruins, 1; Niklas Hjalmarsson, Arizona Coyotes, 1; Ondrej Kase, Anaheim Ducks, 1; Anders Lee, New York Islanders, 1; Josh Manson, Anaheim Ducks, 1; Patrick Marleau, Toronto Maple Leafs, 1; Ryan O'Reilly, St. Louis Blues, 1; Dmitry Orlov, Washington Capitals, 1; Tyler Pitlick, Dallas Stars, 1; Tobias Rieder, Edmonton Oilers, 1; Reilly Smith, Vegas Golden Knights, 1; Alexander Steen, St. Louis Blues, 1; Mark Stone, Ottawa Senators, 1; Ryan Suter, Minnesota Wild, 1; Chris Tierney, Ottawa Senators, 1; Vincent Trocheck, Florida Panthers, 1; Jakub Voracek, Philadelphia Flyers, 1; Mats Zuccarello, New York Rangers, 1; No answer given, 5.


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For me it's Wheeler...

In terms of MY team, it's Bo Horvat...

Cool list.


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(2018-11-10, 07:05 PM)SAVARYGUY Wrote: For me it's Wheeler...

In terms of MY team, it's Bo Horvat...

Cool list.

That's exactly who I was thinking of. When I think of guys who are working like mules for his team, BoHo tops the list of Canucks. Leads the league in F/O's taken and can literally do it all. And when I mean all, I mean all. He can even fight.

I think he doesn't make the list because most guys in the league knows what he brings every night. For a while, he was the only Canuck worth watching out for night in and night out.
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Among players across the league, it's always been Patrice Bergeron, but the man who is taking his place is Mark Scheifele. The guy is insanely good in every part of his game and he can carry his team, an excellent team at that, on many nights when he takes the ice. He'd be in the 5 best players conversations in the league if he played in a big Eastern market as opposed to the small Winnipeg market.
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(2018-11-10, 07:21 PM)Canucksfansince1989 Wrote: Among players across the league, it's always been Patrice Bergeron, but the man who is taking his place is Mark Scheifele. The guy is insanely good in every part of his game and he can carry his team, an excellent team at that, on many nights when he takes the ice. He'd be in the 5 best players conversations in the league if he played in a big Eastern market as opposed to the small Winnipeg market.

Not surprisingly, many of the top guys in this list play in markets that aren't exactly over exposed... 

It's like the golf announcer that says... "and out of nowhere, Hadwin's near the lead"... LOL... Nowhere meaning, he gets no coverage.

And ya, Scheifele is ridiculously good...


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Barkov reminds me of past "under-rated" players who play for one of those teams that people barely watch and then they see them once in a while and think "yes he's pretty good" but they play on a shitty team so people always tend to think they'd be better on better team.

Some examples include, Olli Jokinen in Florida, Rick Nash in Columbus and Marion Gaborik in Minnesota.

All of these guys moved on from their original teams and had very underwhelming careers.
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My list:

Slavin
Horvat
Dumba
Petry
Rantanen
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(2018-11-15, 12:43 PM)Chip Wrote: My list:

Slavin
Horvat
Dumba
Petry
Rantanen

Interesting add to your list, I agree with you, with Weber being out for so long this guy is asked to do so much. Habs fans are so quick to knock him down..
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(2018-11-15, 02:10 PM)Mavid Wrote:
(2018-11-15, 12:43 PM)Chip Wrote: My list:

Slavin
Horvat
Dumba
Petry
Rantanen

Interesting add to your list, I agree with you, with Weber being out for so long this guy is asked to do so much. Habs fans are so quick to knock him down..

He'd look great on the leafs.
I think he's a really good D man.

Reminds me when leaf fans used to crap all over aki berg, but he was pretty decent.

Habs and leafs both have a history of "not knowing what you have until it's gone" sort of syndrome.
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It's still Bergeron.
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Ryan Strome, McDavid 2.0.
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(2018-11-15, 05:41 PM)Viable Wrote: It's still Bergeron.

A guy can't be a perennial Selke winner/nominee and be considered underrated. He's literally being called the best two way player in hockey, and I don't know anyone who knows hockey that doesn't have him in their top 10 players, if not top 5.
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(2018-11-15, 03:05 PM)Chip Wrote:
(2018-11-15, 02:10 PM)Mavid Wrote:
(2018-11-15, 12:43 PM)Chip Wrote: My list:

Slavin
Horvat
Dumba
Petry
Rantanen

Interesting add to your list, I agree with you, with Weber being out for so long this guy is asked to do so much. Habs fans are so quick to knock him down..

He'd look great on the leafs.
I think he's a really good D man.

Reminds me when leaf fans used to crap all over aki berg, but he was pretty decent.

Habs and leafs both have a history of "not knowing what you have until it's gone" sort of syndrome.

The Oilers could use a player like Petry.
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Petry is an anomaly. Anybody watching his game in Edmonton was thinking that he'd maybe be a 20-30 point guy in his prime and be mostly a good puck moving defensive d-man.

What he has been able to do with Montreal has been something else. It's like when Giordano started scoring for Calgary way back when and everybody, including the coach, wondered where the hell this guy came from.
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(2018-11-16, 12:16 AM)Canucksfansince1989 Wrote: Petry is an anomaly. Anybody watching his game in Edmonton was thinking that he'd maybe be a 20-30 point guy in his prime and be mostly a good puck moving defensive d-man.

What he has been able to do with Montreal has been something else. It's like when Giordano started scoring for Calgary way back when and everybody, including the coach, wondered where the hell this guy came from.

Petry ain't as good as Giordano.  The brainfarts are the killer in Petry's game.  Sure, he's an awesome skater, and has filled in admirably during Weber's absence, but it's the mental lapses that happen too often that hold him back.  I also wish he had a mean streak.  Will always remember Petry passively standing by after Price got run over, then meekly trying to pull that player away whike Carey took matters into his own hands and proceeded to pummel the assailant...lol.

For me, I've always thought Backstrom played in the shadow of Ovie.  His passing and anticipation are superb.  Until Kuznetsov arrived, I think Backstrom assisted on well over 50% of Ovie's goals.  And he can shoot it too!  I recall more than a few PP goals from him with a surprisingly good snap shot to a corner when defenders cheated to cover a passing lane.
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Habs fans are divided when it comes to Petry. Myself I think he's been an absolute beast this season. Like Mr. Pigeon said, he makes mistakes but so do most top end defenseman.
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(2018-11-17, 03:13 AM)bchippie Wrote: Habs fans are divided when it comes to Petry. Myself I think he's been an absolute beast this season.  Like Mr. Pigeon said, he makes mistakes but so do most top end defenseman.

For sure, Petry has played plenty of minutes and done himself proud while Weber's been on the shelf last year and this season.  He will get a well-deserved break when Shea finally gets back, maybe by tonight if reports are right!
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One .. for sure.. is Vancouver's Brandon Sutter. Without him we are half a goal a a game against worse (did I say that right?)

 One of the Flames under rated guys is Mark Giordano.. He just never brings anything but his 'A' game and he is steady, and works his arse off

Another one is Nick Ritchie. Not a big points getter, but a hard guy to play against and with a mean streak..Big, and a tough bastard

 Dare I say Edler in Vancouver? Since he went down, our D is not all that great.. and he was playing great... best I have seen in 5 years

and Blake Wheeler has to be on that list too... Winterpeg doing great since they got him

Schiefele is probably the winner, though,,, but I wouldn't trade HORVAT for him
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Giordano would've won the Norris in 2014-2015 if he didn't get injured. He was so damn dominant that season
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(2018-11-15, 05:41 PM)Viable Wrote: It's still Bergeron.

Ya, no.
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