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What is political correctness anyways ?
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In my futile effort to see if we could develop some common understandings of oft-used terms, this one has come up a lot.   Silly

I tend to view political correctness not as a single issue but in multiple contexts.  For example, I think political correctness on universities is a problem when it comes down to protestors shutting down speakers or cascading consequences that stem from a comment a prof makes in class.  

I don't think it's a problem in many workplaces.  Essentially it establishes necessary guidelines to help make a safe work environment, ie. not making racist or sexist comments at a staff lunch table is a good thing.  

I haven't provided a definition yet.  Socialism and capitalism are relatively easy to define next to political correctness, which I think is used as a very wide net to mean a number of different things.
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For starters, it's misnamed. It should be social correctness. There's nothing political about it.
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It's the pejorative term for language that offers dignity to those that some feel deserve none.
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I see it as being an opinion held by a group of vocal people that the folks who call it correctness do not agree with.

Calling it whatever-correctness is just a label that has been applied to an opinion folks do not agree with.
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It's a form of socialism imposed by liberal snow-flakes when they want to take our guns and have open borders and make our country a secular godless nation rules by Sharia law.

Duh.
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(2019-08-12, 08:32 AM)poppabyrd Wrote: In my futile effort to see if we could develop some common understandings of oft-used terms, this one has come up a lot.   Silly

I tend to view political correctness not as a single issue but in multiple contexts.  For example, I think political correctness on universities is a problem when it comes down to protestors shutting down speakers or cascading consequences that stem from a comment a prof makes in class.  

I don't think it's a problem in many workplaces.  Essentially it establishes necessary guidelines to help make a safe work environment, ie. not making racist or sexist comments at a staff lunch table is a good thing.  

I haven't provided a definition yet.  Socialism and capitalism are relatively easy to define next to political correctness, which I think is used as a very wide net to mean a number of different things.

  Gotta agree with that. I wouldn't call that being p.c. but that can get someone fired.. and I am good with that. Heard my share of it back in the day.

Never liked hearing that crap
 
 It was worse when I worked with a bunch of Americans. Racist as hell, and I remember once, there were 2 black guys in the lunchroom. One was a technician, the other an electrician. I won't repeat the crap I heard. but if I had had the authority,  I would have fired more than one of them. This was in the mid late 60's. and later in the 80's when I was at a seminar in the US. I honestly could not believe it.     and they call me a racist in here. If you only knew

 USA a Christian country?  Not so sure tat they really are, although there are religious freedoms there that much of the world doesn't give you

 To answer your Q:

 What is pc? In a word:  OVERKILL. 

We got along much better without it  cuz walking on eggshells never does much good anyhow

for eg: I still call a manhole cover a manhole cover; not a personhole cover..

  I have a great time with 'mailman' cuz this one lady I know delivers the mail. Can I call her a mailman? Mailperson doesn't work. mailwoman? Sounds like Male Woman, and from there, we get into a whole new kettle of fish.

PC is like  re inventing the wheel.. kind of futile, don'cha think?
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If it would have provided protection for the technician and electrician, why are we better off without it now?
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(2019-08-12, 10:42 AM)poppabyrd Wrote: If it would have provided protection for the technician and electrician, why are we better off without it now?

 PB I don;t call that PC as much as just decent manners
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I'd take mandated protection over the idea that everyone might possibly have manners.
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(2019-08-12, 10:59 AM)poppabyrd Wrote: I'd take mandated protection over the idea that everyone might possibly have manners.

  yabbut.. how far should government go to 'control' this stuff?

 Too much is like big brother taking over.

I had someone get MAD at me because I wished them a Merry Christmas. How stupid is that? They are offended. Too bad. Get over yourself

I had people getting offended because I show up to work with a smile on my face. It's just there.. it's me. Don't like it, sue me.. but it is vain to insist people re invent themselves to make some snowflake a happier person.
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Yes I hate to point out the irony, but having reduced workplace protection (as an example) so that YOU aren't offended, well, that's pretty special treatment.

Government sets the rules.  In Alberta, even in the early 2000s, the only anti-smoking measures for restaurants were Edmonton city bylaws.  You could go to a small town and there'd be cigarette smoking......eventually the province stepped in and did the full provincial ban in 2005.  Not everyone is happy, but I think there is a role for government to decide and act.
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(2019-08-12, 11:14 AM)poppabyrd Wrote: I hate to point out the irony, but having reduced workplace protection (as an example) so that you aren't offended, well, that's pretty special treatment.

Government sets the rules.  In Alberta, even in the early 2000s, the only anti-smoking measures for restaurants were Edmonton city bylaws.  You could go to a small town and there'd be cigarette smoking......eventually the province stepped in and did the full provincial ban in 2005.  Not everyone is happy, but I think there is a role for government to decide and act.

 Ok that's getting away from pc, but imo the government definitely over killed that one  I'm not a smoker, but they need to leave people alone. Bubble wrapping the people is just annoying.

 It should be the PEOPLE who set the rules. I so dearly long for a government that is afraid of what the people might think/do. Right now it's bass ackwards
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Why are we talking about government enforcement when social media is a WAAAAAAAY bigger enforcer of political correctness?
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(2019-08-12, 11:32 AM)Hieremias Wrote: Why are we talking about government enforcement when social media is a WAAAAAAAY bigger enforcer of political correctness?

Yeah, I wonder that. Government generally sets minimum standards, but it's media and culture that set social norms.
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(2019-08-12, 10:16 AM)HockeyHippy Wrote: It's a form of socialism imposed by liberal snow-flakes when they want to take our guns and have open borders and make our country a secular godless nation rules by Sharia law.

Duh.

I know you're making a joke, but that doesnt make any sense as Sharia Law is a religious God believing set of rules. So the snowflakes wouldnt approve, trust me.
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(2019-08-12, 09:40 AM)Whattagame Wrote: It's the pejorative term for language that offers dignity to those that some feel deserve none.

I agree with this and the first of its kind.  Before snowflakes, cucks and so on it was politically correct that was used to demean and shut down conversation when somebody spoke up about no more Playboy magazines in the lunch room.  Or, maybe we should use employment equity to give more opportunities to minorities.
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(2019-08-12, 10:57 AM)Highstyx Wrote:
(2019-08-12, 10:42 AM)poppabyrd Wrote: If it would have provided protection for the technician and electrician, why are we better off without it now?

 PB I don;t call that PC as much as just decent manners

That's what "PC" is supposed to be. 

If I use a word that I KNOW offends someone, I chose not to use it. Some would call that being "PC", I disagree, I call it being a decent person. 

For instance, Cleveland Indians, more specifically, the logo. Why would I want to use it/show it if I know it offends? Seems to me, I'm just being dickish if I chose to use it and say other people should just "toughen up".
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(2019-08-12, 11:42 AM)Ryu65 Wrote:
(2019-08-12, 10:16 AM)HockeyHippy Wrote: It's a form of socialism imposed by liberal snow-flakes when they want to take our guns and have open borders and make our country a secular godless nation rules by Sharia law.

Duh.

I know you're making a joke, but that doesnt make any sense as Sharia Law is a religious God believing set of rules. So the snowflakes wouldnt approve, trust me.

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I don’t know if I brought up the workplace stuff, but:

I tend to hear people complain about the workplace, specifically workplace guidelines and such, they tend to blame the lack of ability to be completely unencumbered on “everything is so PC nowadays” and “you can’t say anything anymore” kind of thing.

I don’t know if that is the right use of PC, but that’s why I started the thread.
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(2019-08-12, 09:40 AM)Whattagame Wrote: It's the pejorative term for language that offers dignity to those that some feel deserve none.

Well, it's also a pejorative term for people who have overreacted to a perceived offense, or who use it to coerce and bully.
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